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Fandom Flashback: The Birth of the Lex

Every March we celebrate the Lexicon’s birthday.  There is a reason that we use the whole month as a celebration because it was literally the whole month of March 2006 that changed everything for us.  We’ve posted bits of the story and we talked about it a long time ago in a podcast that someone might remember, but I’ve never written up the whole story.  Until now.  You’re gonna get the whole story from the perspective of a fan (me! Lori Joffs!)  who still can’t believe her luck! (Hopefully this will answer Andrea’s and CatWhit’s question about our history!)

The story of the Lex doesn’t start in March of 2006.  It actually starts years and years before with Dr. Who, Star Wars, and Harry Potter.  You read that right.  You see, Laura and I have been fans of multiple things over the years.  Laura is a die-hard Dr. Who fan as well as a fan of Lord of the Rings and Jane Austen.  I have been a fanatic for all things Star Wars, Star Trek, and Disney for as long as I can remember.  Between the two of us, we have visited and participated in hundreds of websites, chat rooms, blogs, and whatever else the internet provided from time to time.  We watched and we learned.  And then came Harry Potter, which brought us together.

I ran a message board called The Werwewolf Registry along with two other great friends.  It was a small little corner of the internet where we talked about all things pertaining to Remus Lupin and brought him soup after the full moon.  Laura joined us around the time the book Order of the Phoenix came out and the two of us met face to face for the Goblet of Fire movie in November of 2005.  We found we had more in common than we thought and became really good friends.

Just two months later I read Twilight for the first time.  I pestered all of my friends to read the book, but while all of them love fantasy, most of them had no interest in a teen age vampire book written by a Mormon.  To tell the truth, when I first had Twilight described to me, I wasn’t interested either!  While I eventually saw the error of my ways, most of my friends didn’t get it.  Hoping to find ANYONE that understood my obsession with the book, I went on line and found next to nothing.  Honestly.  Saying that now sounds absurd, but there really was so very little relating to Twilight on the internet in early 2006.  Little Brown had a creepy, goth type website that had spooky music playing in the background and was nothing but reviews from readers.  Stephenie had her own website with some out takes and photos from Forks.  I also found two live journals with posts about how much they loved Edward Cullen, but no real discussion.

In early February of 2006, fanfiction.net opened a Twilight section.   There were maybe twenty stories posted when I started posting my own fanfic called “The Lion and the Lamb.”  It was a retelling Twilight from Edward’s perspective.  I got the idea from a small statement on Stephenie’s website about how she rewrote the first chapter from Edward’s perspective as a character study.  I didn’t start with chapter one because I thought that maybe someday Stephenie would release her chapter, and I never wanted my story to be compared to Stephenie Meyer’s version. (Yes, I see the irony.)  I began posting my fanfic and right away knew that I needed something like a lexicon where I could just search for information rather than flip through the book trying to find out what color Jasper’s hair was!  (Seriously, at that time I couldn’t keep Jasper and Emmett separated in my head.  How silly does that sound now?)

It was March 1, 2006 when things changed.   I was chatting with my one internet friend who liked Twilight, Imogen, when I checked my reviews and saw a post from someone claiming to be Stephenie Meyer.  This is what she said:

I’m having a great time reading your vision of things, Alphie–I have to say The Lion and the Lamb is my favorite! I can’t read all of it yet, though, because I’m working on the same project and I don’t want your take to influence mine. I’m in the middle of chapter four of Edward’s version right now (I’m moving slower than you are, but my chapters are quite a bit longer, so that will be my excuse). As soon as I’m done, I’ll be back to read how it happened in your head! Keep up the great work–you’re an excellent writer.”

I was floored!  At first I thought it was a joke, but I looked at the other good fanfiction to see if they had a comment from “Stephenie” and I didn’t find any.  Now, please consider that there were maybe only thirty stories posted at the time and Stephenie wasn’t the mega icon that she is today.  Never-the-less, I was personally dumbfounded that an author who had captivated my imagination enough that I was inspired to write fanfiction had left a comment for me.  I e-mailed her right away just to check.  Here is what I said:

First off, allow me to say that I very nearly crapped my pants at seeing your name in my reviews, so if this is a joke then I’ve been totally had.  But if this isn’t a joke and you really are Stephenie Meyer then I am totally stunned and flattered. 

I would like permission, since I have your ear, to work on a project that would essentially end up being a lexicon of sorts for the Twilight universe.  I’ve noticed with so many of the young authors writing in your world that they tend to get many of the facts wrong.  I would like to set up a place for authors, or just curious readers, to go for a quick reference

 If you oppose the start up of a site like this, then by all means I will not do it.  If you think it would be fun and possibly helpful to your fans, then I would love to take on the responsibility of getting it going.  It’s my belief that your books will soon find a popularity that will leave your head spinning, if it isn’t already there!  I’m glad to be here at the start of the fandom!

It was a little bold of me, I know, but I figured I only had one chance.  Here is what Stephenie wrote back to me:

I would love to see a Twilight lexicon.  I would definitely contribute if there were questions that needed clearing up.  I’ve answered a lot of questions about the mechanics of my own brand of vampire mythology–it would be nice to have all the rules laid out in black and white :)  

Thanks for all your enthusiasm about Twilight (some days I really need that, and this is DEFINITELY one of those days).  I’m awed at your attention to detail and devotion to the story. 

This e-mail brought to my attention the MySpace website run by Nimir-Ra.  I had never heard of MySpace so I didn’t even know to look for it!  But I contacted Nimir-Ra and eventually was able to use some of the information Stephenie posted at that MySpace page on the Lexicon.  I was glad that we were able to do it because that particular MySpace page went off line and some great pieces of information would have been lost.  You can find those in PC 7 and PC9 if you are interested.

Back to the story – I sent a second e-mail to Stephenie with loads of questions.  Her response to me almost in its entirety can be found in PC1.  This all happened in about 3 days.  Over the next few days Stephenie teased me with wanting to share with me her version of Edward’s story and eventually gave me her phone number.  I called her and spent three hours chatting about all kinds of things.  Twilight didn’t even come up until we’d been talking for two hours!  And once we did talk about Twilight I asked her THE question:  will Bella be a vampire?  Would you believe that at that time Stephenie said to me that she didn’t know?!?!?  She knew what would happen if Bella was changed and she knew what would happen if Bella stayed human.  How cool is that?  Then, after that conversation, Stephenie sent me chapter one of “Edward’s Version” as she called it at the time.  All through this I was working on putting the information Stephenie was sending me onto the Lexicon.  It was all very basic.  A few character bios, a few places, and a timeline.  That was about it.

Then on March 10, 2006, Laura called me to say that she had read Twilight!  YEAH!  She had pink eye and was home from work and decided to read it AT LAST! When I told her that I was putting a website together, she was stunned.  When I told her I’d not only spoken to Stephenie Meyer but that she was sending me bit of information that wasn’t in any book, she was speechless!  And because she enjoyed the book as much as I did, Laura wanted in on the website!  I asked her to do the even chapter summaries.  It’s absolutely laughable now to admit that was ALL I asked her to do!  Given how much she does now and how influential she has become to this fandom… all I asked from her was even numbered chaptered summaries.  Talk about a resource going under used!

I sent a link to the Lexicon to Stephenie on March 11, 2006.  It was still very skeletal and it was covered in red leaves at the time (see our fandom flashback logo), but it was a website!  Stephenie had this to say:

It looks incredible, Lori!  W.O.W!!  I need to get an update page together so that I can pimp it out on my site.  I made my husband look (he tries to steer clear of my insanity as much as possible–stupid math head) and he was very impressed.  “How much did you pay for this?” he wanted to know, sounding panicky.  <–high praise from the man.  I told him it was all motivated by love for Twilight, which brought on “the face.”  Heh heh.

Okay, so that was a lame way to tell you how thrilled and impressed I am.  You so get a galley of New Moon–as soon as they send me some.

By the end of March, The Twilight Lexicon was open for public viewing.  We used my fanfiction to promote the website as well as the link Stephenie posted on her website.  Our news at the time was all about updates and what new sections of the site were being posted.  We had only a few visitors in those early months, and I remember celebrating when we hit our 500th visitor.  We even used to have a visitor counter at the bottom of the page!  I think it broke around visitor 432,000.  We opened the message boards soon after the blog opened, which encouraged even more association with Stephenie.  She posted a few times on the Lexicon in those early days.

New Moon was published in September of 2006. We were keeping up with book signings and trying to calm the fandom down after a book where Edward was virtually GONE!  By the time Eclipse was published in August of 2007, we were in the middle of a real fandom.  There was a prom with actors cast to pose as Edward and Jacob, there was a huge “Team” division, and EVERYONE wanted a movie!  The film was eventually cast, Breaking Dawn was published, and the world was experiencing a bona fide phenomenon.  Check out our fandom flashback on the Twilight films for the rest of THAT story!

Over the years we’ve been asked what the secret to running a big website is.  There are so many factors.  The first I can think of is that you can’t build a website thinking that it will be the next big thing.  You build a website because you love the fandom or the book or the movie or whatever!   My first website wasn’t big, but I loved it all the same and it will always hold a special place in my heart.  You also have to do it without any expectation of getting something in return.  Yes, Laura and I have been very blessed with amazing experiences because of this website.  I can’t speak for Laura, but the best things that I’ve gained are the friends that I’ve met and the knowledge I’ve learned.  I put this site up on the net because ~I~ needed a place like this to visit!  It’s a wonderful bonus that other people have found it useful, too!

Some of you did ask questions that I promised to address.  Elizabeth wanted to know about our Café Press shop.  It’s still there!  Believe it or not, there was a time when you couldn’t buy an Edward t-shirt at the mall.  Once upon a time, the café press shop was one of the few places you could get twilight merch.  She also wanted to know what we thought of the many Twilight related books out there.  I have looked at and skimmed most of them.  Honestly, having lived through it the way I did, it’s difficult to want to read MORE about it.  I’m usually interested to find out what the books say about the Lexicon.  I actually laughed out loud when I found my name in a Robert Pattinson biography! As far as Twilight related recommended reading the first thing that comes to mind is The Official Guide!  I’m always surprised to find how many fans haven’t really read all the bios in that book and discovered the little gems of information it contains.  Abby wanted to know how we deal with the controversies.  I assume she’s asking about things like the Victoria recasting or plagiarism scandals or leaked books or film footage.  For the most part, we try to keep our opinion off of the blog and only report the facts as they are presented to us.  Do we have an opinion?  Yes.  But we’ve found that sticking to the facts as best as we can is much more beneficial than letting our feelings get in the way.  Dealing with leaked footage or books is different though.  It’s always been our standpoint to not publish anything that isn’t official.  It’s not fair to the authors or film makers when items are leaked without their permission.  We’ve held that opinion from day one and we still hold that opinion.

However, the most frequently asked question was, what will you do when Twilight is over?  Never fear, this website will be here for a long time yet.  We won’t take it off line, but we probably won’t update things the way we have done in the past.  It will always stand as an archive as sorts.  If Stephenie keeps writing, then we will keep updating.  As far as other things are concerned, Laura has already branched out into other fandoms.  She works closely with Hypable in her original fandom of Dr. Who and for her new obsession, Game of Thrones.  If I could give Laura any gift in the world I would give her a chance to meet and talk to David Tennant or Kit Harington! OR BOTH!  Personally, I’m trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up!  I’m looking at what kind of a career I want for the rest of my life.  I’m still debating various things, but I feel that this experience has opened my eyes to possibilities that I never would have considered a few years back.

We’ve enjoyed all six years we’ve been involved with this fandom.  We’ve loved being on this ride with all of you.  We are flattered that you find our website helpful and informative.  First and foremost, we are fans just like all of you!  The Lexicon is a product of the fans!  We wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for your support over all of these years.  Thanks so much for sticking with us.  We’ve still got several big events to cover in 2012, so it’s not over yet!

Come back Wednesday for our first birthday give away!  And yes, Marlene, we give prizes to anyone from anywhere.  If a contest on our website is sponsored by someone else, then it is usually only open only to those in America.  But the contests that we offer from our own stash of prizes is open to anyone!

Also, if you’re interested, our Forkscasts are still on line.  I just listened to the first one and it works!  The first one especially is informative for how Laura got into the fandom!

What Do Women Want: Part 3

Erika Chistakis wraps up her three part series in the Huffinton Post about women’s desires being reflected in movies and how Twilight reflects those desires.  The whole series is wonderful!  You can find part one and part two here.  Here are a few highlights from part three.

About the stories of fans having sezures from Breaking Dawn:

A week or two after the movie’s opening, national papers predictably jumped on reports of a handful of viewers having seizures caused by the birth scene. “IsBreaking Dawn bad for your health?” screamed the headlines.

Let’s not discount the seriousness of epilepsy, but I do need to ask if anyone has tracked seizures resulting from watching male-oriented action movies. Surely people with epilepsy have seizures in all kinds of contexts, and Twilight is hardly the first movie to feature bright lights and other brain-rattling effects. Is it possible that we pay more attention to the health consequences of extreme movie scenes when they feature a father delivering a baby with blood smeared quasi-pornographically across his face than scenes with machine gun fire and sawn-off limbs? The histrionic media reaction seemed a tad skewed.

About how Twilight “talks” more than resorts to violence:

More than a few Twilight fans got in a lather about New Moon and Eclipse (movies two and three) because some of the overwrought conversations from the books were clipped in favor of jacked-up action scenes no one wanted to watch. A pivotal scene in which Edward apologizes ad nauseum for leaving Bella was reduced to the blink of an eye, denying the viewer the delicious spectacle of a backpedaling superhero. And Stephanie Meyer doesn’t even bother to stage the epic battle scene that the whole series has been building up to in Book Four; everybody just packs it up and works it out in with… you guessed it… talking.

And why, exactly, is this a problem? Shouldn’t we be embracing — or at least not wholesale eviscerating — a blockbuster series that espouses non-violence? I have yet to read a review of Twilight that recognizes the foundational truth of the story: that aggression is almost always the worst option, and that human life merits respect and forbearance. It’s easy to find this tacky or politically threatening; Stephenie Meyer has something to offend both ends of the ideological spectrum. But we needn’t be aligned with conservative religious teachings or lofty liberal pacifism to acknowledge the refreshing rarity of a successful movie franchise that rejects our great national love affair with violence.

About holding films aimed at women to a different standard than those films aimed at men:

So why do we still insist on vetting female fantasy life through the critical and shaming lens of reality? If it doesn’t pass our test of what is good for us in real life, we’re not allowed to dream about it. There’s nothing new about this: Women have always been viewed as the gatekeepers of morality. Whatever conclusions one draws about The Hangover Part II, no one seriously views it as a threat to American manhood. Yet the messages in “women’s movies” are seen as carrying a special potency. Apparently, we just aren’t entitled to have outré fantasies lest somebody’s delicate sensibilities be injured. What’s unclear is whose feelings we are supposedly protecting.

Name a movie — any movie – that 1) features two or more women who are given names and 2) who talk to each other about something other than a man. If you think this is a ridiculous litmus test that most movies could easily pass, you’d be very wrong. Most fail. The Bechdel test is a simple way to measure the presence of women in American film. The movies that don’t meet this low bar are numerous: The Bourne Identity, Ocean’s 11, Lord of the Rings, The Shawshank Redemption, Mission Impossible, X-Men, the list goes on and on. Even movies aimed primarily at women or children, such as Up and When Harry Met Sally, often fail the test.

About how Hollywood needs to pay more attention to women:

In response to Twilight’s critics, Director Bill Condon recently remarked, “This series is about things women care about and has a woman at the center. So there are people who just stay outside it and mock it.” For all women’s astounding progress in other areas of contemporary life, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that we’re still stuck in the Mad Men era when it comes to movies, alternately objectified and belittled.

Can you really blame a girl, then, for throwing in her lot with a bunch of preening vampires and mangy wolves? “What choice have I?” as Edward once memorably exclaimed. All you movie moguls out there: Are you listening yet? Give us our dreams, please, shaken and stirred.

Again, I totally agree with eveyrthing being stated here, especially with Christakis’ final thoughts and quote from Bill Condon.  In fact, I asked Mr. Condon a similar question while at the premiere for Breaking Dawn. You can hear Mr. Condon address this right at the start of this video:

 

Read the full article here.  Let us know what you think! Do you agree or disagree?  Leave us a comment!

Next Movie’s Male TwiHard Reviews the Breaking Dawn Part 1 DVD

The Male TwiHard has chimed in with his opinion about the Breaking Dawn Part 1 DVD:

I was looking forward to Condon’s commentary, because he got short-changed during his panel discussion at the Twilight Convention, when he was onstage with KStew, RPattz and Lautner. And the native New Yorker doesn’t disappoint.

Right out of the gate, he talks about how the film didn’t originally begin with Jacob receiving the invite to Bella and Edward’s wedding and running angrily off into the pouring rain. The first scene was Aro receiving the invitation, right after the Volturi have massacred 50 people. It was supposed to remind the audience of the looming threat of the vampire elite, but was cut because Condon felt “Part 1″ is more about Bella’s struggle inside than the outside threats. Luckily, Condon also says that scene will show up on an extended cut at some point.

Condon is intelligent and gives a number of great insights — way too many to note here — but I will tell you that he says the original sex scene between Bella and Edward was more graphic. Unfortunately, the MPAA threatened an R rating unless it was scaled back, so we got what we got. And, there is no Bella nipple. I was wrong before. Trust me, I checked a few times.

See more on the Male TwiHard’s Column.

The Breaking Dawn DVD Review

Thankfully this isn’t like New Moon where we had to buy three versions just to get all the extras! The DVD’s are basically the same content no matter who you order it from it’s the packaging perks that are different. Though the Walmart version also has Bruno Mars and Chritina Perri videos on it ( hit youtube and you can see those as they have been out for months)

So, help out your fellow Twilight fans who haven’t run to the store or online yet.

Which DVD/blu-ray did you buy?

Which retailer did you get it from?

One thing we realized this morning was that the Blu-ray special edition (the one with the packaging that matches the special editions from the other films)was only available from Target online. You could get the basic blu-ray in the store.

Also what is your favorite part in the extras?

Walmart versions
—Perk= fabric poster on the wedding dressing version

Target versions
—-Perk=prop flower used at wedding in collectors tin collectors edition

Version available any place

Taylor Lautner in Company Magazine Preview

The full interview is out in the issue that release on Sunday. Digital Spy has this preview:

“It can be difficult. But now I’m used to the screaming and the occasional grabbing,” Lautner said. “The first time it ever happened I was like, ‘WOAH! What’s going on? Why are they screaming? Why are they touching me?’

“But now I get the fans’ passion. We understand it so it’s not that crazy to us anymore. I just have to be more strategic about where I go, so I don’t go to the hippest restaurants at the busiest times, and I try not to tweet before I go.”

Discussing time spent in London, the 19-year-old said: “I’ve been there three or four times, but it’s always flying straight in and out on promotion for a film. This time I’m here a bit longer, so I’m going to hit up Rob [Pattinson] about where I should go. I’ve heard there are some great restaurants, so I’m really looking forward to trying them.”

Admitting to being a fan of British girls, he added: “The British accent is definitely not a negative!”

See more on Digital Spy

Booboo Stewart’s Friends Think Being in Twilight Moives is Cool

Booboo Stewart talked to a reporter about his friends opinion of his Twilight connections.

I asked him about whether his guy friends gave him a hard time for being in a franchise oriented towards women, and I was actually pretty surprised by what he said.

“They think it’s really cool that I’m in it,” he offered. “It is a really cool thing to be a part of. And yeah, it is obviously more a girls’ movie. But in Eclipse and Breaking Dawn, there’s definitely scenes for the guys.”

Booboo’s interests go well beyond the big screen, however; he’s also incredibly into music (he’s a guitarist and cites Boston as his favorite band) and has toured with Miley Cyrus. In addition, he’s also a big fan of superheroes and comic books; he’s even created his own character named Millenium Man.

“I made (him) up a really long time ago…It’s just a hobby, it’s all for fun. We’ll see what happens with it. It’s almost all done.”

And if he could be any superhero? “Superman.”

Booboo was an extremely easy-going guy and was great to talk to. I couldn’t help but walk away thinking years down the road, I’d be telling my (future) kids about the chance I got to interview Booboo Stewart.

See more on The St. Louis Review

Video: Kristen Stewart Behind the Scenes at Vogue

Kristen Stewart was on the cover of Italian Vogue in November.  Here is a video look behind the scenes of her photo shoot and a preview of the cover.  What do you think of her look for this photo shoot?

 

Collider Looking For a Breaking Dawn DVD Reviewer

One of our favorite websites is Collider. The have excellent interviews that don’t just rehash the same old questions all of the time,and they’ve always given Twilight fans a really fair deal by not running a parade of snide comments and cheap shots with their movie news. The owner of the site, Steve, last year reached out to us looking for a reviewer for the Eclipse DVD because he wanted a fan to state if it had what fans wanted. Not being a fan himself, he wanted some “expert” advice. He found a fan reviewer, Gretchen, and she was terrific. This year he is reaching out again. Check out the details on Collider.

Video: Yahoo Previews the Breaking Dawn Part 1 DVD

ET had their video earlier now it’s Yahoo’s turn.

Video: ET Previews the Breaking Dawn PArt 1 DVD

Check out the featurette that appeared on ET.